Dona Nobis Pacem

Today November 5th , 2009

PEACE

I wish my friend Mimi Peace in her Heart

xxx

Natalee Holloway....................

I live in Australia, I only know about Natalee from reading some crime message boards and the Oprah website.
I read the Excerpt online on Oprah by Beth Holloway "Loving Natalee: A Mother's Testament of Hope and Faith"

Do you know what really gets to me ? do you know what really upsets me the most out of all of this ?
Apart from the obvious, that as a Mother I just can not imagine how excruciatingly painful this is for Beth, that I just cant imagine never knowing what happened to your child.
I cant imagine losing a child to death, but I cant imagine how much more painful it must be not knowing if that child is dead or alive.

For me what really upsets me the most, that really defies all I know about being a good person, is that there are some people, right now, somewhere in this world , living their life, KNOWING That they were involved in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.

How do they carry on day after day ?
How do they eat their breakfast , lunch and dinner every day ?
How do they party with their friends, enjoy a movie , a swim , a holiday ?
How do they lay their head down on their pillow at night and sleep ?

There are people out there right now, who were involved in Natalee's disappearance, and whether that be her death or her kidnapping into some illegal human trafficking arena...these people WERE involved and they KNOW What happened to her.

How can they not come forward ? and be a decent person ? a decent human being ?
Have people become so desensitized that they think that its just "fine" to carry on with their daily life with their family and friends ? while Natalee's family and friends live in despair and pain every single day since she disappeared ?

Where did those people's values and morals go ? that they were taught ? and apart from the genuinely psychotic , mentally disturbed people in this world I do believe most people are decent , good human beings that often get themselves into situations that they feel they can not get out of, situations that are clouded by alcohol, drugs , peer pressure, a moment of insanity....
I do believe that most people in this world given the same circumstances but without that "trigger" would not do what they do..

I have to believe in that, because otherwise I would just want to curl under a bed with my family and never leave...I have to believe that because otherwise it would destroy me.

So if somehow, someway those people involved in Natalee Holloways Disappearance in Aruba on Sunday The 29th of May in 2005 chance upon this blog, or even people who "know" the people involved in Natalee's disappearance chance upon this blog, I put it to you like this : Imagine if it were your Sister or Brother that this happened to ? Or even if you don't have a sister or brother , imagine it happening to your Mother or Father ? Girlfriend/Boyfriend, Wife/Husband, Niece/Nephew..anyone that you love....how would you feel ? the daily loss of that person, never knowing what happened to them...Truly ask yourself how you would feel..how much pain you would be in every single day..

Ask yourself these questions truthfully :

" Am I a decent person ? "

" Do I want to go through life with this on my conscience"

" Do I want to die knowing that I caused torment and heartache to a great deal of people"

Life isn't meant to be about hurting other people.
Anyone that has any knowledge of any kind that was to come forward would be able to stop that.

I would really like to believe that anyone who has any knowledge of any kind would be able to see past their own fears of what may happen to them, be it whether they were directly involved, had knowledge of , or even knowledge of the people involved.
Next May in 2010 it will have been 5 years since Natalee Holloway disappeared, Natalee was just 18 years old when she disappeared with her whole life ahead of her, Work, Marriage, Children, friends, family, good times all to be had...She would be 23 now......

Accidents happen, Mistakes happen, tragedies happen, but it really is a crime to know something about the disappearance of a beautiful young lady and not speak up, but rather say nothing and allow her family to live in torment.

If you know anything about the disappearance of Natalee Holloway, In Aruba May 2005, Please get your inner "decency" courage and present yourself at your nearest police station and tell them what you know.....

This is a link to Real Photos of the Natalee Holloway Case, some of these people here hold the TRUTH to what happened to Natalie. I can see it in their eyes. When we are young or even middle aged, we think we are indestructible and can just blast through life, but when we are struck down by severe illness or old age there are things in our life that has gone before us that will surface to our memories...Many people make confessions at this stage because they want to be free of what they have hidden...but why wait until then , now is the time to act, so that you can live the remainder of your life in peace, knowing that you did the right thing...

Adoption Disruption and People on the Self Publicity Trail

I completely blame Anita Tedaldi.....

You can read about her HERE and HERE and, well just google her name and you will find a lot more because she is very vocal

A little adopted boy who is named only as "angryboy" by his adoptive mother is up for grabs on the internet : you can read the horror story HERE and also my comments which I will also post here

I wrote the following comment there:

Jane says:

October 23, 2009 at 1:01 am

After reading the response to Mirah and other posters from the Adoptive mother – I put it to the readers that the 8 year old adopted boy learnt “anger” from his adoptive mother.
Your tone and attitude to Mirah and other posters was immediate anger.

The anger that is coming from you shows through louder than you obviously can see.

You are the one coming across as angry.

If you do not want the criticism then I will give you the same advice I gave to Anita Tedaldi after her piece on the “Termination of her adopted child” – DON’T WRITE ABOUT IT
Pretty simple really isn’t it.

These are the type of children who go on to be mass murderers, serial rapists , always in trouble with the law and so on because people like YOU and Anita, take a child (thinking you are so wonderful and that *GOD* instructed you to ADOPT) that you fail to realize your own limitations , thus ending in serious problems all round and creating in SOME Cases a complete Monster, because you failed to push through the issues, and thus once again abandoning the child

Let me put it to ALL of the readers out there a different way…one that you can all relate to (probably)

Think back to when you were in a relationship, someone you loved with all your heart , maybe this was the one even and that person ended that relationship……

How did you feel ???

Rejected ? Abandoned ? Low Self Esteem ?

In the majority of cases this is how people who are the dumped one in the relationship feel, some go on binges , drinking , excessive eating/not eating , partying hard, being a recluse – any number of these things can and do happen , because they feel rejected, hurt, unloved , unwanted…

Why then is it SO HARD For people to wrap their head around how an adopted child feels?
And when that adopted child is dumped TWICE how much more damaging that is to them..

People who disrupt adoptions do not deserve the privilege to adopt a child.

I also took my comment over to HERE which is where I first found about this little boy named "angryboy" by his adoptive mother.

Sadly my comment seemed to get lost, and the focus was turned to me saying that this is how some monsters (ie rapists /murderers) are created.

There is no denying it, adoption has created many monsters, and I have added a further comment which I hope will be posted :

I hope that my point is clarified, as I did say in SOME Cases a complete monster is created , and no matter which way you look at it, adopted or non adopted , people who rape and kill are monsters.

These people ARE Monsters and they are adopted

http://www.geocities.com/Wellesley/9950/adoption_serialkillers.html

http://www.amfor.net/killers/

People like Anita Tedaldi and this other person who is putting her “angryboy” (UGH) up for adoption on the internet are the type of people who help create the above type monsters.

Its bad enough being given up for adoption once, but twice ? :(

I can only hope that these two little boys abandoned TWICE don’t turn out to be like the above monsters

The point I really wanted the focus on was how I compared a breakup of a relationship to the feelings that adoptees suffer through continuously.

I wanted non adopted people who don't understand adoptees to have something to relate to.

I hope that came through.

Stephanie Nielson and Oprah - 7th October 2009

YUP

Stephanie is going to be on Oprah (I imagine Christian is too)

If you live in the USA Then turn on Oprah today - According to THIS its going to be on at 4pm channel 2

I have no clue as I am in Australia - so will someone kindly put it up on utube and send me the link please x

You don't want to miss this...I am sure

You can read a bit more about it over HERE and you can read Stephanie's blog HERE

Stephanie Nielson AKA NieNie

I don't want anyone to forget her or Christian....

They are always in my thoughts....

They are amazing...

Stephanie is amazing..Stephanie is someone that I look at and she inspires me to do good, she inspires me to be strong in the face of adversity, she inspires me to be better...

Stephanie is not only amazing she is beautiful, as is her husband, her children and especially her family and Christian's family...

I know that the focus is on Stephanie, she is the one most affected by this tragedy, apart from their good friend Doug and his family..but I think the focus is on Stephanie because its other mothers relating on a "mother level" wondering how they would cope , react, survive....

Christian and Doug are thought about ....too....

But its Stephanie, "the mother" the lifeline...its so important..Motherhood...Stephanie all I can say is that I am so very very glad that your beautiful soul was spared because your 4 beautiful children need you and love you...

I don't know you...and I love you.....

You are just simply...amazing...

xxx


You can read Stephanie's blog here - Be warned though...you will fall in love with the Nielsons :)

Apparently this is a stupid blog !

There is a policy in place here....
But seems people dont mind..because as stated if your comments are abusive I will do a complete post about them..
So Here is one of my most recent comments which was intended for this blog post I did on dimitry Yakolev/Chase Harrison who *died* whilst left / abandoned in a car on a stinking hot day by his adoptive father .....on their way to daycare ! but went to work and forget that Dimitry was in the car and carried on at work .....

Mother of 5 - has decided to let hurl some abuse at me...

This is the most stupid blog I've ever read. I know a woman who's just her third baby at the age of 47, Good luck to her. This sanctimonious idiot is right to talk about her "soapbox". I've seen hundreds of incompetent parents who stay at home with their children all day, and many many juvenile delinquents from dysfunctional homes with a stay-at-home mother. Equally I've seen many well-adjusted and loving families who use day care. Emotive biased language such as "dumped" are just there for sensationalism - Being a good parent has everything to do with parenting skills and loving - for all I know this OP could be one of the moronic stay-at-home mothers who has no idea of what she's doing - it's amazing how these people can butter up their own skills and show such judgement and outrage at others.

Oh....and "Jane" is also anonymous, unless, Jane, you'd care to post your REAL name and address in full. Then and only then can you be held up to scrutiny.

What hypocrisy and stupidity.

Hmm well Jane is My REAL Name thank you kindly, and if you had read the rest of my blog you would have noticed that!
Next who in their right mind publishes their address on the ineternet for all the whackjobs to get a hold of - if you do then you are a fruit cake and should definitely not have children !

And um yes I can see that Dimitry's adoptive parents were doing an excellent job, so good in fact that he is DEAD

I must say I feel flattered that this person opened a blogger account just to comment on my blog.
Glad to see that I'm making a impact

Oh and Motherof5 (if thats your real self!) I'll be watching out for comments from Melbourne, Australia, using a Mac with Safari - for future comments ...and they wont be published - or perhaps I will do a seperate post just for you !

:)

Adoptee Rights and Various Parties

I'm in Australia, I'm not really affiliated, associated, buddies or otherwise with any of the varying factions that are fighting out there for adoptee rights and amongst themselves. Whilst I know many, and choose to associate with some doesn't mean I am in league with them.
But what I do see, is movies, tv series, films etc made that potray adoptees as psychos, offbalance, not mentally stable and so forth..
What I have observed over the past year between some of these various factions is beyond my comprehension of how they do understand that is just supporting the view that is out there about adoptees.
I have recently read some blogs, since the Philly Adoptees rights demonstration and the nasty language used from varying people about other people is unbelievable. To actually write such nasty words and to belittle others in a demeaning way, OTHER adoptees, on a public blog for all the people who might be watching and reading various blogs is truly amazing.

No matter what people are about, whether they clash with someone Else's personality, whether they downright despite another person, if there is a common goal, IE getting open records for adoptees in America, then surely the battles can be put down and everyone strive for the common good.
Throwing around vile insults, and gutter language at people , trying to humiliate others , taking others to task, being mean, embellishing the truth, exaggerating what another is doing, and basically just being hurtful, isn't going to make anyone in any position of power , be it legislators, media etc take anyone seriously.
All it's going to do is cement in their mind that ALL Adoptees are stark raving mad....

I feel dismayed that instead of putting a positive spin on whatever was achieved in Philly this year, there are those that take the opportunity to disparage. Whilst I agree that the event needs to be reported from varying sides, perhaps care could be taken to be factual rather than putting personal opinions into it.
I feel even more dismayed to see people then vilely attacking and abusing those that have chosen to present a different side to what they observed happening for all those that did not attend.

I wish that everyone would put aside their insecurities, grow the hell up and join together for the common good of getting adoptees their rights the same as every other person in America and NOT have situations like what happened to this poor lady who wanted to obtain a drivers Licence and was treated like a piece of muck on someones shoe!

Do you think that's possible ?